r/unpopularopinion May 17 '21

You should not be obligated to provide sources for an online argument. Most times, people ask for sources as a shitty way to derail the debate at hand.

People seem to have this habit of asking for sources during an online argument especially on reddit. This is pointless because it shifts the entire argument to whether or not the source you provided is credible rather than evaluating the actual opinion. Even on well-researched topics, people still deflect and refuse to believe the statement when provided with credible evidence. In most cases, people can find any statistic they want to help create the narrative they’re looking for. Stop whining about the source while debating something especially when you have no intent to even read the article if provided. Its a waste of time for everyone and even when providing the source, the words in it are cherrypicked and used against you.

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u/JustAnAsianWithWifi May 17 '21

most of the time people ask for sources to make sure you’re not spitting bullshit which, in my experience 9/10 they are

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

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u/Ramguy2014 May 17 '21

Why couldn’t the right side provide a credible source?

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u/abcd123np May 17 '21

Some people have no source and pull an opinion out of their ass…..

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u/Mortomes May 17 '21

8 out of 10 statistics are made up on the spot.

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u/abcd123np May 17 '21

80% chance this one is too ☝🏼😂

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u/silvershadow014 May 18 '21

that's literally the joke

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u/Acrobatic_Ad8256 May 17 '21

Vaccines are made by hentai lovers and in a few generations we will be growing tentacles. Do i need to source this?

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u/LizardCityRobot May 17 '21

No. sounds legit.

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u/surely-a-sir May 17 '21

You're not obligated to give us a source apparently

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u/Doggo4269 27d ago

I’d rather a source for the hentai than whatever this fact is

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u/surely-a-sir May 17 '21

Hey, you're a bank robber. Oh you want a source for that? I'm not obligated to give you that

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

What

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u/surely-a-sir May 17 '21

You're a bank robber too

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u/Korunam May 17 '21

/notunpopularjustwrong

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u/Disastrous-Purpose10 May 17 '21

Upvote for unpopular opinion but if you make a claim you have to prove it. Otherwise the other person can just respond with “your arguments have been debunked numerous times” and also not provide a source

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

😌😌😌😌😌😌

I have here 4 case studies that say yes and 3 that say no, funny too that we have 2 opposing conclusions published by the same institution 😱 shocking! 🙄

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u/ClamGoats May 17 '21

Got a source for that argument?

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u/H00L0GXNS May 17 '21

I need more sauce please.

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u/ya-know-that-one-guy May 17 '21

you only have this opinion bc someone asked for your source and they debunked it and now you feel dumb and wanna cry about it on reddit. you want to prove a point, bring sources.

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u/Magmamaster8 May 17 '21

Do you have a source for that claim?

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u/ya-know-that-one-guy May 17 '21

yup, this post right here.

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u/TheRealDirtyB May 17 '21

What...?

Dude if you're gonna make a claim, you have burden of proof. The medium on which the debate is taking place doesn't change that.

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u/GrilledStuffedDragon May 17 '21

No one says you are obligated to.

But if you make claims that someone then challenges, it is your responsibility to back them up with sources.

You aren't obligated to abide by this responsibility, but then again you aren't really obligated to being polite or following any sort of etiquette during discussions either.

It's just something that polite, intelligent people tend to do.

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u/Freezefire2 May 17 '21

There's no such thing as a source for an opinion.

As for the issue at hand, anyone can make any statement one wishes. It would be impossible to get anywhere if people didn't have to backup their statements with evidence.

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u/borncrossey3d May 17 '21

My favorite is when they ask for a source for your opinion. Like I thought of this all by my own without anyone telling how I should feel.

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u/Pineapplebuttplug2 May 17 '21

As an example, in another thread; "Other societies have had a more advanced understanding of physics for 150 million years" Just thrown out there like its a fact everybody knows, when asked for a source on that scrupulous claim i got, "Brother, they don't want sources out there" as if that was an answer. Then a link to a shitty robot voice youtube vid.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

People also ask for sources for the most obvious things alive, and it’s like- why are you expecting me to write you a college essay? When you’re not beholding yourself to the same standards? 100% agreed with OP.

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u/Ramguy2014 May 17 '21

You aren’t obligated to provide a source. Likewise, nobody is obligated to listen to what you say.

Claims require evidence, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and that which is asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence.

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u/WilAgaton21 May 17 '21

Yeah. Its a headache to some people, because they go into some really deep reading, clicking on every available link to form a personal (informed) opinion. Do those people really believe that that person would remember every site they were reading? Taking note on every single site and topic that informs their own conclusion.

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u/maxbd07 May 17 '21

Facts before feelings homie

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u/z_h1996 May 17 '21

You seem like a person who lies a lot

Source: this dumb opinion you posted

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u/Dicktracy4613 May 17 '21

One of the most common people that do this are pitbull apologists. When you state actual widely known facts about pitbull fatalities/attacks etc, they immediately say "source?"..even though pitbull stats are WIDELY known. And even when you show multiple sources, they still argue that the stats are somehow skewed. It's annoying.

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u/Pineapplebuttplug2 May 17 '21

If you're actually worried about the health of children, you'd be better trying to ban something actually harmful, like fast food.

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u/LizardCityRobot May 17 '21

If you are going to make a wild claim, you should be able to back it up easily. The only reason you wouldn't is because you are wrong.

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u/jbpforuandme May 17 '21

Asking for sources is also a way for your opponent to initiate a gish gallop.

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u/Log_Cold May 17 '21

Most people put sources without anybody asking them to, it’s a way to back somebody into a corner. It is a low, but logical and effective, method

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u/gavlar96 May 17 '21

Do you have a source for this?

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u/BrianDerm May 17 '21

People don’t want a source. They want a link. Nothing behind a paywall like an actual academic journal, either.

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u/meduiza7 May 17 '21

it's a waste of time for everyone

Arguing online is a waste of time. That too with no source to back your claims up, loses the credibility of your statement even further.

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u/Livid_Ad_1146 May 17 '21

If someone is spouting out blatant misinformation then it's completely normal to ask then where they got that information

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u/EccentricHorse11 May 17 '21

If you make a claim like "Neil Armstrong publicly admitted that the moon landing was fake", then I am sure as hell gonna ask you where you got that information from. It's just basic common sense to ensure that the info you are getting is from a reliable source.

But Upvoted for unpopular opinion.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

Ehhhh, dude 🤔 isn’t this a given??

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u/whydoyouevenreadthis May 18 '21

You're actually wrong. A statistic I've seen says that your opinion is invalid. Just trust me dude.

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u/Lizard_Zepplin May 17 '21

Imma need you to site your sources on this one

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u/notarobot32323 May 17 '21

this man had two arguments the first one he lost cause he couldnt provide a source, but it gets worse the next arguments debunks the exact thing you say.

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u/Waffleswater May 18 '21

Failure to provide evidence is just bad arguing. And finding fault in an argument is the whole point of a debate you cherry pick evidence not cherry pick an argument that's called deconstructing an argument and pointing out its logistical or factual flaws.