r/unpopularopinion May 04 '21

The people who most strongly advocate against capitalism are the ones who have already profited so much off of it.

Living in NYC, you see a bunch of people who hate capitalism for whatever reason. A majority of those that do tend to be born as upper middle class women which doesn’t make sense to me. For starters, most of these people come from well-off backgrounds with parents who are lawyers, doctors, businessmen etc who are most certainly participants within the stock market. Due to this, growing up they’re often able to have the luxury of affording the best education possible and usually don’t have to worry about money. I guess somewhere along the line the thought process shifts while attending one of those elite undergraduate schools due to all of the debt that is acquired which is no ones fault but their own. No one forced you to pursue a low-paying career while also taking out a boatload of debt to go to a prestigious undergrad so you can feel superior to everyone else. They end up adopting this kind of victim mentality where anyone who works in a high paying job like finance is automatically a bad person. Theres a good portion of people in these careers who work long, hard hours in order to improve their lives and the lives of their future families, but they end up being demonized because of this smart career choice. Do they not realize that the same people they demonize for contributing to a capitalistic society are also their own family members who at one point started from the very bottom as well? Their entire upbringing has been centered around capitalism and now that they’re struggling due to the life choices that have been made, they expect society to shift in order to cater to them.

Edit: The title still stands as correct. The paragraph is catered towards large metropolitan cities, specifically NYC, but you’ll find these people in every city.

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u/lovelyafterthoughts May 04 '21

This is on par with those “you participate in society, yet you criticize it! Hypocrite!” posts.

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u/MommasMuffins May 04 '21

If you have an iPhone, can't criticize capitalism - OP probably

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u/bsnow322 May 04 '21

Communism is when no iphone everyone knows that

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u/MommasMuffins May 05 '21

"When I think of communism, I think of socialism because they are basically the same thing wait that's right, right? "

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u/adryAbonifis May 05 '21

I mean very technically in OG Marxist theory communism is the word used for the end result of socialist development where there is enough shared material abundance that the state and money are no longer necessary and wither away

Governments calling themselves “communist parties” do so to signal that their end goal is a communist society in the Marxist sense, although rarely have these governments had such good intentions throughout history

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u/Donghoon 25d ago

Socialism is government controlling economy

Communism is when Community controls the economy?

Or something along the lines of... Idk...

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u/CTK_John8-11 May 05 '21

That webcomic is the only thing keeping many redditors from having a full blown existential crisis over their own blatant hypocrisy. They never attempt to actually explain how to reconcile advocating for socialism while they maintain a luxurious lifestyle.

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u/Epimeria May 05 '21

Youre the socialism no iphone meme lmfao

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u/CTK_John8-11 May 05 '21

Still don't have an answer lol

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u/Epimeria May 05 '21

I mean, if you want an actual answer, it's not hypocritical to survive under capitalism. If a commie owned a factory and exploited labor, that would be hypocritical. A commie purchasing commodities is not.

I wouldn't say I live a lavish lifestyle, but I live well. I got a CS degree, I work to get enough money to live nicely. Communism isn't depriving yourself of niceties. It's an economic organization.

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u/CTK_John8-11 May 05 '21

Spoiling yourself with luxuries while workers around the world struggle is the definition of talking the talk but not walking the walk.

I got a CS degree

That explains your political views much more concretely, where are you on the left/right spectrum?

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u/Epimeria May 05 '21

Communism is when no luxury. The less luxury, the more communism it is.

And I'm literally a communist.

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u/CTK_John8-11 May 05 '21

And I'm literally a communist.

Ah, so you are pretty far on the spectrum.

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u/Epimeria May 05 '21

I'm literally as far left as one can go.

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u/CTK_John8-11 May 05 '21

I knew it, pretty much all cs majors are on the spectrum.

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u/koolkween May 05 '21

Yeah... you don’t know what you’re talking about. So she shouldn’t enjoy luxuries bc others don’t have them? Why can’t we advocate for a better life for everyone?

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u/CTK_John8-11 May 05 '21

So she

How could you possibly know if the other poster is a woman?

Why can’t we advocate for a better life for everyone?

You can advocate for anything you want, you're still a massive hypocrite.

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u/koolkween May 05 '21
  1. True. Correct: So they. 2. Yeah no, please wet your dry ass brain. It’s not hypocrisy to want people to enjoy the same livelihood as you. Are you dumb?

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u/CTK_John8-11 May 05 '21

Advocating the redistribution of wealth while living an enormously luxurious lifestyle is the most obvious hypocrisy ever. The funny thing is that I can't tell if you are trolling or are actually that dumb.

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u/CreamerFireball9999 13d ago

no, you don’t understand what they’re saying. what they’re saying is, arguing that capitalism is bad while enjoying the benefits of capitalism is hypocritical. it’s like someone telling you to go vegan for the environment while eating a steak.

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u/koolkween 13d ago

It’s not like that and no, you don’t understand. Where home is, there’s capitalism. The conditions to survive and thrive means living under capitalism at the expense of other people. The goal is to get rid of capitalism everywhere so that people have more power over what the conditions are to survive and thrive. That includes “third world” countries nationalizing their oil, lithium, other “valuable” minerals, charging “first world” countries what those countries decide, and redistributing all that wealth among the people. You’re blocked now ☺️

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u/CreamerFireball9999 13d ago

except, by your ideology’s logic, you are indirectly benefiting from the exploitation of workers by partaking in any of the conveniences offered in the modem west. you ARE the bourgeoisie.

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u/Epimeria 13d ago

Have you never heard the saying "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism".

You can't live without exploiting the global south if you are born in the west. Particularly if you're poor and are forced to purchase items as cheap as possible from chains like Walmart.

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u/CreamerFireball9999 13d ago

sounds like communist. propaganda, but ok.

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u/Epimeria 13d ago

I mean yeah, I'm a communist. But if you can prove that there's ethical consumption under capitalism, you'd be the first! PragerU might even hire you!

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u/CreamerFireball9999 13d ago

except it’s your claim (that all consumption under capitalism is unethical) that needs major substantiation.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '21

You profit off the suffering of other without any accountability is a funny way of saying participating in society.

No one gives an f if you criticise it, it’s that you drag on people who are JuSt PaRtIcIpAtInG in society but for some reason you are the moral authority.