r/pics 13d ago

Started collecting 1oz bars of pure metals: aluminum, titanium, copper, nickel, silver, gold

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u/ganymede_boy 13d ago edited 13d ago

USD Per Ounce:

Aluminum: $0.07564

Titanium: $5.75

Copper: $0.28

Nickel: $0.51

Silver: $26.54

Gold: $1,771.00

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u/PhiloPhocion 13d ago

Maybe I’m an idiot but I knew gold was worth more by weight than silver but I didn’t realise it was by that much.

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u/GregLoire 13d ago

The difference has historically been a bit smaller (about 50:1). Their rarities are closer too (gold is only about 17 times more rare than silver in the ground).

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u/dutch_penguin 13d ago

Even less. In the early 19th century it was about 15:1. Traders made a killing because Japan's official exchange was 10:1

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u/TheHoneySacrifice 13d ago

Adam Smith mentions gold to silver ratio of 1:14 in European bullion markets. Japan was 1:10 even then.

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u/Big_Toke_Yo 13d ago

Probably cause of video games. Clearly 100 silver isnt worth one gold. But surprisingly 100 copper is close to one silver

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u/Adenosine 13d ago

??? 100x silver is worth even more than 1x gold

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u/Big_Toke_Yo 13d ago

Lol read that wrong

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u/mikescha 13d ago

Too many Big Tokes, Yo!

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u/AquaDracon 13d ago

What edition are you playing? Everyone knows that 10 silver is worth 1 gold.

Just don't mention electrum.

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u/zebediah49 13d ago

Which is an obnoxious design choice, because it makes there only be a 100:1 (or 1000:1 if you include pp) dynamic range in the currency system. So you end up with cp and sp being basically useless, and gp ranges from "a few" for small mundane things, to "hundreds of pounds of it" for magic items.

Whereas a 100:1 system means that you use cp to buy trivial daily peasant-consumables, sp to buy mundane crafted items, and gp to buy either very high end mundane items, or magic equipment. And you rarely need more than a few hundred coins for anything.

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u/Doctor__Proctor 13d ago

Yeah, the monetary system in 5e is pretty borked. I think it's mostly because people want to get gp because that's iconic, but then it throws the whole economy out of whack when you're getting 100gp for finishing a quest in Tier 1.

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u/99probsbutAbishaint1 13d ago

Rhodium: $29,000

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u/one_is_enough 13d ago

Ha! I actually looked up Rhodium and gave it a quick Nope!

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u/LengthinessDue5066 13d ago

Last year it was about the same as gold. Give or take.

But Rhodium is only produced as a byproduct of platinum mining, and all of those mines are closed due to Covid. But you can't sell a car in much of the world without Rhodium. So here we are.

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u/clown-penisdotfart 13d ago

Price will crash if the combustion engine dies and then maybe we can leverage Rh in electrical applications.

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u/senorbolsa 13d ago

When I was using mech mods for vaping rhodium plated contacts were a thing.

I imagine if you got the equipment or know someone who does it it's no more expensive than gold plating, but it was definitely a feature only found on expensive stuff and sometimes an optional extra for ~$50

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u/VernalCarcass 13d ago

Well yeah, they need something to drive on!

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u/archaic_angle 13d ago

Rhodium: $29,000

ah, so that's why thieves crawled under my car in the dead of night and cut the catalytic converter out of my exhaust system.

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u/wolfgeist 13d ago

This is becoming a huge problem in Portland. I've had neighbors who came out to start their car and found it up on blocks in the morning

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u/wilber2k 13d ago

Recently sold some old coins I had lying around to a precious metals shop downtown (Portland). He was in a rush because apparently I had interrupted him on his way to the post office to ship his little box of Rhodium to its new owner. It wasn't until later I realized I had witnessed the end of the catalytic converter theft food chain going out in the mail for $27k.

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u/LuciusBentley 13d ago

Was just thinking this. Saw an article the other day. Hasn't happened to me personally. Watch where you park your cars people!!

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u/PM_IF_NOT_HORSE 13d ago

These assholes literally drive deep into my apartment complex, sawzall the shit out of who ever tonight’s unlucky person’s Prius is, and speed off. I’ve literally seen it happen. Fucking bold, but maybe not since apparently there are zero consequences.

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u/gitty7456 13d ago

Uranium $29’500

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u/UndersizedSandwich 13d ago

M’ladium - $69,420

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u/Rickrickrickrickrick 13d ago edited 13d ago

Tips Fedorium

Edit: thanks for the award u/lorazapam! I just took one of you!

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u/RothkoRathbone 13d ago

Unobtainium the entire population of the na’vi

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u/Jackcooper 13d ago

My twitchy neighbor told me he knows just the place to get free rhodium

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u/Paramite3_14 13d ago

Have you checked under your car lately?

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u/chrisbrl88 13d ago

Someone tried to gank one of the cats off my truck recently. They weren't very good at it. They got halfway through the heat shield on the left side and either gave up or someone walked up on 'em. They weren't even cutting in the right place. They managed to partially slice my shift cable, though, so that was fun to replace.

I'ma weld up a couple rebar or angle iron cages and bolt them to the frame on either side such that it makes it impossible to pull the cats out even if the exhaust is sliced without also cutting the cages. Make it so it'd take too long to cut through everything and not be worth the risk of getting caught.

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

And as soon as you do, your cat will go out on its own next week and you'll be taking that shit right back out. Murphy is a son of a bitch.

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u/Reacher-Said-N0thing 13d ago

I'ma weld up a couple rebar or angle iron cages and bolt them to the frame on either side such that it makes it impossible to pull the cats out even if the exhaust is sliced without also cutting the cages. Make it so it'd take too long to cut through everything and not be worth the risk of getting caught.

https://i.redd.it/4h25ze24slv31.jpg

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u/ChaChaChaChassy 13d ago

Now do that thing they harvest from horseshoe crab blood...

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u/ACuteMonkeysUncle 13d ago

And for density:

Aluminum: 2.7 g/cm3

Titanium: 4.5

Copper: 9.0

Nickel: 8.9

Silver: 10.5

Gold: 19.3

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u/Bradst3r 13d ago

Was briefly surprised that the Al and Ti ingots were the same height, until I noticed that the former is thick enough to make up for it. I suppose it makes more sense to have molds that are the same W x H but with varying thickness.

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u/drunkenbrawler 13d ago

My gf sometimes says I am thick and we are almost the same height but I am heavier so I think you are correct.

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u/lord_dentaku 13d ago

I wish they all had the same stack size and just varied on thickness. It would be really satisfying to have them in a single stack.

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u/OskaMeijer 13d ago

Use the aluminum bars to tile your bathroom floor and have the coldest floor possible when stepping out of the shower.

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u/PresidentRex 13d ago

Silver has higher thermal conductivity. If you want those extra cold feet, silver is the way to go. Until it tarnishes and looks all gross.

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u/Aduialion 13d ago

How many times do I have to teach you this lesson old man. Use a sealant.

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u/Manobo 13d ago

Well that escalated quickly.

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u/snowyday 13d ago

The exact opposite of RAM prices, which deescalated slowly.

One megabyte of RAM:
* 1957: $411 million
* 1980: $6,480
* 1990: $106
* 2000: $1.56
* 2010: ~ $0.02
* Dec 2017: ~ $0.0071

Source

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u/ILikeItHotNSpicy 13d ago

Sucks that Apple still charges 1980 prices.

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u/aGlutenForPunishment 13d ago

I get that this is a joke but 8GB of RAM at $6480 per MB would be 53 million dollars. At 90s prices it would be 868 thousand. Even at 2000s prices it would $12,779. It is more in line with 2010's pricing as 8GB of RAM would be $163 as it's currently about $200 to boost a MacBook Pro by 8 GB.

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u/LegacyLemur 13d ago

Thats still pretty ridiculous

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u/gitty7456 13d ago

Francium would be $31’000’000’000.

Why not adding it to your collection?

(I went down the elements cost rabbit hole)

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u/ganymede_boy 13d ago

TIL Francium is extremely radioactive and has a half-life of only 22 minutes and as little as one ounce exists at any given time throughout the Earth's crust.

Nice meeting you in that rabbit hole.

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u/DarthCloakedGuy 13d ago

Yeah an ounce of francium would literally explode

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u/gitty7456 13d ago

Expensive and short lasting, but totally worth it!

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u/Hagenaar 13d ago

Like a BMW 3 Series!

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u/Fordiman 13d ago

For reference, it's not fissile, just really radioactive. Like around 5 MW of heat for an ounce of material radioactive. "Explode" is technically correct, but probably the wrong word. "Spontaneously vaporize" would do it.

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u/MaximumOrdinary 13d ago

anti-matter $62,000,000,000,000 per g

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u/Manos_Of_Fate 13d ago

The only number bigger than its price would be its explosive yield.

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u/deepsea333 13d ago

I’m guessing a fancy pressed ingot of aluminum did NOT cost OP 8¢.

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u/cc882 13d ago

I just looked it up the cheapest I could find was $10 on eBay.

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u/kalel1980 13d ago

I was just gonna comment to say that I bet that gold piece cost a fortune.

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u/ganymede_boy 13d ago

Not if they got it in 2001. Average that year was $271.19.

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u/Toketree 13d ago

i remember how much it spiked after 9/11 - seems so cheap now

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u/garrettisgarrett 13d ago

yes its "cheap" but where are hoarders going to spend it if the economy fails - not suggeesting it will but I have always wondered about those who hoard gold to "survive the apocalypse" - you are better off having a trailer of food then a trunk of gold

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u/Ipad_is_for_fapping 13d ago

I thought this could be a neat hobby till I saw the price of gold

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u/Skeeter1020 13d ago

That 1oz bar of aluminium is surely less than worthless at 8c? It will have cost significantly more to make it and ship it than that.

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u/Belazriel 13d ago

You likely won't find anyone selling bars at 8 cents. Here they charge $4 (and will buy it back for a whopping 71 cents. This site charges a little less but that's probably around the going rate then as others charge [significantly]((https://luciteria.com/bullion/aluminum-999-1-oz-bar) more.

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u/Birdy_Cephon_Altera 13d ago

I think we're going to need a banana for scale.

Well...at least one ounce of a banana.

Also, are some of them troy ounces, and some non-troy?

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u/F00lZer0 13d ago

No platinum?

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u/bloomautomatic 13d ago

Yeah, where’s the platinum? You holding out on us or has Big Platinum got to you too?

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u/bumjiggy 13d ago

Big Platinum sounds like the name of a rapper

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u/AnAdvancedBot 13d ago

🎵 I love it when you call me Big Plat-num 🎵

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u/bumjiggy 13d ago

throw your grams in the air if you's a true player

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u/thisisnitmyname 13d ago

If you’re a troy player?

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u/DefenestratedBrownie 13d ago

leave grandma ALONE

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u/your__dad_ 13d ago

Tell 'em son!

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u/wordsonascreen 13d ago

Shut up, you're not my dad!

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u/Juraki 13d ago

Throw your hands in the air, if you’re a true weigher.

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u/The_RockObama 13d ago

Homie got bars, yo.

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u/dtsupra30 13d ago

lil’ platty

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u/RaunchyBushrabbit 13d ago

Now it sounds like the latest addition to the platypus exhibit at the local zoo.

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u/one_is_enough 13d ago edited 13d ago

Stuff's as expensive as gold . . . so I might have to save up a bit. It's definitely on the list.

Edit: A lot of people are asking where I got these. It's asked and answered somewhere down below, but I figured I'd answer up here to save you the scrolling.

The precious metals (gold, silver, and platinum if I ever take the plunge) I'd get off ebay from a reputable seller like Liberty. All the others are fairly worthless so you can just search amazon for the name of the metal plus "1oz".

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u/gustad 13d ago

If you think that's bad, just wait until you get around to plutonium.

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u/Mythdefied 13d ago

i collect the periodic table in coin form and this made me lol

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u/primalbluewolf 13d ago

Man, I'm still stuck on the Hydrogen coin. Can't seem to get the pressure right.

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u/beatles910 13d ago

About 400 GPa should do the trick.

The best metallic hydrogen mines are on Jupiter.

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u/QuipOfTheTongue 13d ago

The best metallic hydrogen mines are on Jupiter.

ROAD TRIP!!

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u/djb85511 13d ago

"come children, everyone on the bus!"

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u/justsomeguy_youknow 13d ago

At my old school, no one got crushed under the atmospheric pressure of a gas giant!

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u/Elemenopy_Q 13d ago

when i was young we had to go to jupiter barefoot, kids today have it easy

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u/FarplaneDragon 13d ago

I was sure we'd be able to buy it any any corner drug store by now

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u/Capo_capo 13d ago

In the meantime just take it from some Libyans

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u/FarplaneDragon 13d ago

Think they'd trade for some pinball machine parts?

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u/lllMONKEYlll 13d ago

Vibranium is very expensive as well.

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u/SmittyYAP 13d ago

Also, adamantium

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u/DigitalPriest 13d ago

Ain't got shit on Unobtanium.

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u/Prof_Cats 13d ago

Who do you buy from/trust? I dont know enough to try and read your bars lol

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u/Captain_Sacktap 13d ago

There are a few reputable bullion dealers online, you can Google it. Otherwise, there are local places in almost every major city that deal with precious metals. Many jewelers also handle precious metals as a side business. As long as it has paperwork to prove it’s authenticity and it’s from one of like a dozen highly reputable mints like Pampe Suisse or the Royal Canadian Mint or whatever you should be ok.

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u/ObscureAcronym 13d ago

I only deal with reputable sites like www.cats4gold.com.

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u/Smtxom 13d ago

“From the people who brought you DOWNLOAD MORE RAM

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u/DiamondHandsHold 13d ago

You can ask the guy who stole my catalytic converter. Sure he has plenty.

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u/Captain_Sacktap 13d ago

It’s actually about $500/oz cheaper than gold right now. Which is still a lot, of course.

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u/CufflinksOP 13d ago

How about some Gold Pressed Latinum?

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u/blackmesawest 13d ago

He lost it playing dabo

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u/iinaytanii 13d ago

"watch the wheel, not the girl"

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u/cadtek 13d ago

Dabo!!

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u/Ryger9 13d ago

Here’s the real question. Though, being that latinum is liquid, how are we gonna get a pure bar of it?

Edit: autocorrect doesn’t recognize all money types. Lame.

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u/Cethinn 13d ago

Liquid at room temperature. Just have to keep it really cold after removing that worthless gold casing.

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u/Ulftar 13d ago

Or in one of the stomachs of your friendly neighbourhood Lurian.

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u/millijuna 13d ago

Yeah, but they're so chatty that there's a good chance they'll spill the beans.

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u/ew73 13d ago

Bars of gold-pressed latinum are surrounded by worthless gold! tap, tap

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u/oneblank 13d ago

I’ve been seeing so many Star Trek references lately. Is everyone rewatching it or something?

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u/MortalMorals 13d ago

Whoever awarded your comment platinum made my day.

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u/Keianh 13d ago

Just take one of the other bars, or buy an ounce of Lead, put it into a particle accelerator and wait for it to be bombarded with free protons until you get the desired new element. Fair warning: It might be radioactive so avoid touching it or if you have to touch it, make sure you have the right safety equipment to do so.

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u/ctishman 13d ago

I knew keeping my backyard particle accelerator after Halloween would pay off eventually.

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u/Loki-L 13d ago

Note that these are all troy ounces not the sort of ounces you normally weigh stuff in in the US.

A troy ounce ins about 1.1 of a regular ounce, but you only need 12 of them to get a troy pound.

This means that a troy ounce is more than a regular ounce, but a troy pound is less than a regular pound.

Online calculators and the like are usually smart enough to automatically assume that you mean troy when talk about the worth of an ounce of gold, but it helps to double check.

To avoid confusion you say things like "1oz t" instead of "1 oz" when talking about precious metals.

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u/GrimResistance 13d ago

I hate everything about that.

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u/LexSenthur 13d ago

A hogshead of bullshit is what it is.

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u/madeamashup 13d ago

a bushel of malarkey

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u/Merlyn_LeRoy 13d ago

I'll give up my buttload when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.

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u/RedHairThunderWonder 13d ago

You mean from your cold dead butt

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u/Science-Compliance 13d ago

A stone's worth of bullshit stacked four hands high!

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u/pak9rabid 13d ago

How many rods will that take you?

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u/Ted_Brogan 13d ago

My car get 40 rods to the hogshead, and that's the way I like it

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u/GatorBro97 13d ago

Fuck you, Troy

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u/no-mames 13d ago

-love, Agamemnon.

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u/KlaatuBrute 13d ago

It's the trick answer to the "which is heavier" question.

Which is heavier, an ounce of feathers or an ounce of gold?

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u/PM_ME_YOURE_HOOTERS 13d ago

I might file this away for when I am feeling pedantic

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u/pablossjui 13d ago

switch to Metric! problem solved

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u/Perfect_Assignment13 13d ago

Gimme a metric ounce of gold, sir!

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u/Smaskifa 13d ago

I only have gold in deciounces. 10 deciounces ok with you?

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u/Skeeter1020 13d ago

This it TIL and TIHI all in one.

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u/ThePhenex 13d ago

I want to know how many people have already died because of conversion errors.

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u/miyog 13d ago edited 13d ago

We lost a Mars satellite some years back due to conversion errors between metric and imperial!

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u/gumbo_chops 13d ago

I'll never understand the logic for things like this. It's like how the height of a horse is measured in the units of "hands" which equals some arbitrary number of inches or centimenters. Horse people are so god damn weird though and I probably shouldn't be surprised they need to have their own special unit of measurement.

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u/Rhodie114 13d ago

And don't get me started on "nautical miles." A mile doesn't get any longer when you get on a boat, dickheads.

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u/annatheorc 13d ago

Well, it makes sense. Think of feet. It was hands and feet, because those were available. Then they became standardized but the names stuck around. It was easier to measure horses with hands rather than feet though.

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u/gumbo_chops 13d ago

I'm sure it made some sense back when there were technological limitations, but sticking to these sorts of things purely because "that's the way it's always been done" is ludicrous to me.

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u/Fettlol 13d ago

I know at least a couple of Troys dealing with "ounces" and not a single one of them has one that's more than an actual ounce

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u/kenacewr 13d ago

TIL about a Troy ounce. 31 grams in weight, exactly 2.75 grams more than an imperial/avoirdupois ounce. There is also the apothecary ounce which is 34.96 grams. So correct me if I'm wrong but:

Troy = Metal stuff

Apothecary = Medicine & scientific stuff

Imperial = Drugs and any other stuff

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u/deadbird17 13d ago

What's the fuckin point of that?

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u/easykehl 13d ago edited 13d ago

Super pedantic trivia question idea: “Sort by mass: a Troy ounce of lead, an ounce of feathers, and a fluid ounce of water.”

Answer: 1 oz feathers (28.35 g) < 1 fl oz water (29.57 g) < 1 oz t lead (31.10 g)

It’s annoying because an idiot just guessing based off the density would get it right.

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u/JuleneNicky 13d ago

Why do they look so tempting to touch and look?

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u/whatsthehappenstance 13d ago

Why stop there?

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u/fubarbob 13d ago

Anything's a biscuit if you're rich enough?

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u/one_is_enough 13d ago

Because they are. The main reason I got the gold was to fidget with it. Then I got curious about the other metals. The density, texture, and thermal transfer properties are different for each one.

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u/AdamKDEBIV 13d ago

Just out of curiosity, how much did you play for the gold toy?

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u/baconeyes 13d ago

Where do you get these from???

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u/one_is_enough 13d ago

Amazon for the cheaper metals, eBay for the silver and gold, but look for reputable companies like Liberty.

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u/Jahmay 13d ago

And justice for all.

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u/_Log_Jammin_ 13d ago

Unpopular opinion but it’s the 2nd best Metallica record.

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u/tuxedonyc 13d ago

But which one is the heaviest?

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u/PalpatineForEmperor 13d ago

A pound of feathers obviously.

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u/DrunkSatan 13d ago

The emotional weight of what you needed to do to those birds is immeasurable

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u/atomicbob1 13d ago

Next time my dad asks the question, this will be my answer.

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u/beerdude26 13d ago

And the physical weight of my gut after what I did to those BBQ wings is also immeasurable

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u/L3f7y04 13d ago

"But steel weighs more than feathers"

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u/ERRORMONSTER 13d ago

But steel's heavier than feathers

FTFY

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u/Stoic_Breeze 13d ago

But steel's e'vier 'en fe'ers

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u/Yiff_me_ 13d ago

Your feather would be proud

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u/yParticle 13d ago

that's a pricey set of dominoes to knock over

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u/mensch75 13d ago

Where do you buy from

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u/Lifesophist 13d ago edited 12d ago

I use Golden Eagle Coin Company, prices are really good. The company has never done me wrong either. One time they screwed up an order of plastic bar holders and they fixed it rightaway when I called. Been dealing with them about 15 years. They have all kinds of stuff. I have silver Bitcoins and Bullets for example.

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u/_un_known_user 13d ago

Do they have Reddit Silver?

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u/Lifesophist 13d ago

LOL! No, you have to earn it.

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u/simian_fold 13d ago

He's a good lad

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u/GoodOlRock 13d ago

Now do mercury!

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u/one_is_enough 13d ago

I actually have some but couldn't get it to stand on edge. But now that you mention it, I'm going to find a clear vial so I can add it to the display.

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u/Tsu_Dho_Namh 13d ago

So long as he keeps it in a fridge at -40 degrees.

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u/KoningCassies 13d ago

Let’s play commodity domino now

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u/one_is_enough 13d ago

I did that several times when standing them on edge. The titanium was too thin and the edge not square enough to stand up without a blob of putty.

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u/Enano_reefer 13d ago edited 13d ago

You should add tungsten. It’s denser than the same density as gold and not that expensive.

Iridium and Osmium would cost you a pretty penny.

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u/one_is_enough 13d ago

Some metals I just haven't found in bar/bullion form.

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u/Blatheringman 13d ago edited 13d ago

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u/SingularBread 13d ago edited 13d ago

Crazy that tony Stark was burning through palladium

Edit: originally said tiny start. Lul fuck you auto correct.

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u/Cel_Drow 13d ago

Even if he used up a palladium bar per day, at that price it’s only $1mil/yr. Chump change to a billionaire genius playboy philanthropist.

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u/Dr_Edge_ATX 13d ago

What does the "Troy" mean?

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u/e_t_ 13d ago

Non-metric units of measure are all kinds of weird. Troy ounces are commonly used to measure precious metals. Most other "ounces" you come across are Avoirdupois ounces. A Troy ounce is about 31 grams versus about 28 grams for a Avoirdupois ounce.

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u/Meta_Professor 13d ago

It's a special weight measurement for metal. It's just about 31 Grams. IIRC the "troy" part comes from the city the unit was made in.

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u/ptwonline 13d ago

Formed inside of dying stars, then blasted across the universe.

Slowly accumulated by gravity with the other gas and dust to form a planet.

Melted inside the planet's core, then blasted upwards into the rock by the pressure.

Billions of years of evolution creates animals who risk their fleeting lives digging into the ground to extract these metals and form them into pure metal bars.

And then they end up in some primate's house for him to sit there and look at them, while other primates from around the world make noises of wonder and approval.

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u/Captain_Crouton_X1 13d ago

Unga bunga me like metals

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u/HCPage 13d ago

This reads like an excerpt from Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy.

I love it.

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u/QVJIPN-42 13d ago

Tell us when you get atium!

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u/JustAnAverageGeek 13d ago

Hello fellow Mistborn!

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u/QVJIPN-42 13d ago

Hello! Life before dea- no wait... I’ve been on Roshar too long...

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u/sonofamonster 13d ago

What’s up with so many allomantically inert metals?

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u/ConfusedCoderHere 13d ago

Did a double take hahah. Always nice to see mistborn references in the wild!

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u/Cosmeregirl 13d ago

Was looking for this comment

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u/Johmpa 13d ago

Rust and Ruin, this comment is way too far down!

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u/IamA_BlackGuard 13d ago

What about Beskar? U forgot Beskar

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u/lksahrlkasheda 13d ago

no uranium?

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u/beerg33k 13d ago

No printer toner? Thats where the real money is

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u/Birdy_Cephon_Altera 13d ago edited 13d ago

The only one that really surprises me is the aluminum one - given the relatively low value of the base metal, I'm surprised there is any company producing single-ounce bars of it.

But, then again, as long as there's people willing to buy it because of the novelty factor, there will always be people willing to make it for them. I can only imagine what the retail markup is on something like that - it's gotta be in the many thousands of percent.

What's your next one on your list? I know there are palladium and platinum bars available, but soooooo pricey.....

Edit to answer my own question: How about 1 oz bar of iron? - $9.50. Or, other one-ounce bars available from the same company, that makes single ounce bars of metal (like the copper one OP has): antimony, niobium, rhenium, cadmium, cobalt, dyprosium (!!), erbium, gadolinium, and many others.

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u/Ninjalikestoast 13d ago

Where’s that platinum at dawg?

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u/FlameOfWrath 13d ago

I'm going to wait until you get the lead out.

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u/soundeng 13d ago

Great way to teach density too.

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u/ericwashere15 13d ago

I can’t wait for somebody to post this but the Gold, Silver, and Platinum is replaced with the appropriate Pokemon cartridges.