r/me_irl May 04 '21

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u/FARTCOPTERRRRR May 04 '21

"socialism has never worked!"

ignores every CIA military coup ever

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u/FanEu953 May 04 '21

Yeah Venezuela is only a shit hole because of the US..not like their economy wasn't already shit before the US put sanctions on them and tried to make Guaido President

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u/FARTCOPTERRRRR May 05 '21 edited May 05 '21

Venezuela is not in a bad place because of "socialism". Venezuela funds public programs through relying on the money it makes off its nationalized oil industry. When the price of oil collapsed, that meant a lot of its funds for these programs did as well. So the root cause of Venezuela's financial struggles has to do with the sudden collapse of oil prices, a STAPLE of capitalist markets, not socialism. Who, may I ask, controls most of the world's oil, and as such can use its considerable economic heft to influence oil prices? Answers on a postcard, thanks. US sanctions are then wielded horrifically to cripple their economy and starve their people, and giant U.S. corporate conglomerates begin hoarding and hiding food from the people, causing false shortages for profit and compounding these issues. Chaos, hunger and strife is inevitable when you're the target of American imperialism. And DESPITE this economic chaos, the people of Venezuela still support the Bolivarian revolution, Chavez, and the democratically elected Maduro over the U.S.-backed attempted coup. In fact, they support it MORE now that the US is starving and attacking them. With the US doing South American military coup #846394 but in Venezuela this time, and it being the current target of American imperialism, don't just blindly accept the propaganda pumped through the news, i.e. "hurr durr vuvuzela bad cuz socialism". Like, come on...we've been through the Iraq war as a country, and we now clearly understand as a population what that war was actually for and how well THAT kind of shit ends. Hopefully, we can now all see why the U.S. is SOOOOOOOO interested in Venezuela (hint: oil).

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u/argues_somewhat_much May 04 '21

As if the KGB (and its predecessors and successors) never existed

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u/i_hate_android_p May 04 '21

If u can never handle an attack then maybe its not the gvmnt fault

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u/therealserialz May 04 '21

Fuck me, that is some smooth brain you got there, pal.

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u/i_hate_android_p May 04 '21

Nobody on gods green earth would be willing to fuck you, pal.

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u/i_hate_android_p May 04 '21

Nobody on gods green earth would be willing to fuck you, pal.

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u/grjnfrukbft May 04 '21

“If you can’t handle an attack from nearly every fully developed country in the world your ideology is flawed”

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u/i_hate_android_p May 04 '21

yes

CCP is antogonized but it survives how come

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u/El_Sleazo May 04 '21

Because the CPC achieves shit through hard work and careful planning, instead of just looting the third world for profit and power.

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u/i_hate_android_p May 04 '21

Exactly, even though its ideology is universally under attack it survives

So socialists should stop blaming other countries for their failures

Im not a commie btw

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u/El_Sleazo May 04 '21

China is a world superpower and an economic titan, so it is very well-equipped to deal with sanctions and western intervention. Places like Cuba and Venezuela are not. The US is to blame for the majority of problems countried like them face.

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u/i_hate_android_p May 04 '21

Venezuala collapsed because of corruption and because it didnt have access to the usd

It depended on the states and when the USA sanctioned it, it collapsed. That is mismanagement on the Venezuelan side of things

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u/El_Sleazo May 04 '21

You literally said that it collapsed when the USA sanctioned it.

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u/i_hate_android_p May 04 '21

Yes i am acknowledging thag the us attacked it, but if a country collapses because of that then it was not that stable to begin with

Iran north korea turkey are all sanctioned but have not collapsed

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u/FARTCOPTERRRRR May 04 '21 edited May 04 '21

china as a country is 4000 years old...

this is the same stupid argument destiny made that one time.