r/me_irl 13d ago

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u/Soros_G 13d ago

"Oh no I twisted my ankle. Glad I gave $15k in savings"

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u/Just_Links_To_OP 13d ago

Ha! Americans just wouldn't go to the hospital. My grandad hobbled around on a broken foot until it healed 'good enough'. Saved 15k right there

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u/JacobJamesTrowbridge 13d ago

This is funny and tragic if you agree with the post, but even more so if you’re trying to disprove it

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u/caveman512 13d ago

Im 27 and I honestly think the last time I went to the hospital/doctor was like 15 years ago for a sports physical

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u/Smilwastaken 13d ago

I'm t1d so I have to get my checkups and various exams, because if I don't, complications are significantly more likely to do damage

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u/Grognak_the_Orc 13d ago

Yeah I had to have a physical when I was 16 for JROTC in high school. Took my shirt off, asked me if I thought I was in an okay condition and then sent me on my way. Ironically at the time I had (and still have) a... let's say condition which can lead to blood poisoning and needs surgery. But hey 5 years later and I'm still alive!

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u/LowerReplacement6542 13d ago

I'm 36, have really expensive insurance, and I basically am in the same situation. I pay about $5k/year for insurance, my work puts up another $20k, and it still costs a few hundred dollars to go to the doctor and there's no way of knowing ahead of time whether I'll get charged or not.

Taking my son to the pediatrician, we have the copay, then the bill goes to the voodoo accountants and I get random number of bills for the next 6 months for $100-$200 each. Our health care system is so fucking stupid I cannot believe anyone can defend it in good faith. I get so mad I just refuse to pay them most of the time and just drag it out so they lose as much money as possible, it's so common that it has almost no effect on my credit

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u/JerHigs 13d ago

From Ireland, no insurance.

Last July my appendix burst. I was brought to the hospital in an ambulance - because I was admitted the ambulance was free.

I had major surgery (because it had already burst & things had to be cleaned up in there they couldn't do key hole surgery) and spent a total of nine nights in hospital.

For the next couple of months I either had to go into the hospital or the local public health nurse twice weekly for dressing changes and general check ups.

I was billed a total of €720 (9 nights at €80 a night) for everything. That's about US$865.

I shudder to think what the same thing would have cost me if I was in the US.

I worked in the US for about 6 months and a guy I worked with had the misfortune to have been knocked down twice, a few years apart. The second time he was knocked down a bystander started to call an ambulance but he stopped them and got in a taxi (in incredible pain) instead because he was still paying off the ambulance from the first time he was knocked down. That is ridiculous.

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u/mgtkuradal 13d ago

You could multiply your cost by 10 and it still wouldn’t even be close.

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u/RedWicke 13d ago

In the US, about $13k out of pocket, in 2020 dollars. Total bill: Upwards of $190k

Source: My appendix burst March 25th last year, and I was in the hospital for 3'ish weeks.

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u/JerHigs 13d ago

That is madness.

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u/trihar33 13d ago

I’m also Irish but lived in USA years ago. I had a baby there... luckily had health insurance at the time through my job. I did get a statement afterwards showing how much my insurance paid for my care. I did have an emergency cesarian so cost obviously higher for surgical fees and more days in hospital afterwards. But it was $90k. That was in 2006, my son is 15 now.

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u/caveman512 13d ago

There's also this weird thing where the "cost" is higher because of insurance. Idk exactly how it works but basically that bill cost is not what it would be without insurance

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u/Soros_G 13d ago

That sounds really bad

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u/hrlc1990 13d ago

My dad did the same and I’m currently working on a hand I’m almost sure I have fractured at least. Farms have less than zero insurance

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u/Just_Links_To_OP 13d ago

I know people that have vet insurance for their castle but not people insurance for them and their family

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u/hrlc1990 13d ago

Oh yea man but that one is required by law. In case the cattle get out or cause an accident. We’re disposable they’re not.

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u/grandBBQninja 13d ago

The US is a fucking dystopia.

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u/adonej21 13d ago

Yeah my 73 year old dad who has what passes for decent insurance in the states is doing the same. All because he can’t afford the uncovered expenses and won’t accept help from us kids.

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u/Mattmannnn 13d ago

I broke a growth plate in my wrist at 14 years old and when it started healing wrong (ulna kept growing radius did not) I hid it for about a year knowing the first hospital visit almost ruined us financially.

As it turns out however, having to get reconstructive surgery on my wrist 4 years later would be much MUCH more expensive.

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u/lyricalhitman 13d ago

My bio mom has a broken toe that still hadn't set right and I need eye surgery or I have the possibility of going blind in the future But I'll be damned if I'm dropping 20k on eye surgery, I'll just get a doggo.

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u/so-much-wow 13d ago

America...Fuck yeah!

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u/Ginevod 13d ago

My Indian friend made the mistake of going to the doctors because he felt he might have broken his wrist. They ordered an X-Ray, turned out he was fine, sent a bill of USD 2400. For that money he could have flown back home, taken an X-Ray at any of the best hospitals here, and travelled back again the next day, after spending the night at a 5 star hotel.

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u/MarvinTheAndroid42 13d ago

I remember a comment chain about an injured arm that put it beautifully.

“Why call a doctor when Youtube is free?”

“So is healthcare in civilized countries.”

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u/chuck_kn1ght 13d ago

Literally costs an arm or leg, or figuratively costs an arm or leg

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u/best_jerky 13d ago

"then i only have to pay off debt the next 10 years"

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u/KraZwhale 13d ago

oh whats that college? you too? oh ill be right there once i stop living on the streets

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u/Kaplaw 13d ago

"Lol i aint going to the hospital"

Then it heals wrong and you got a chronic walkong problem.

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u/Sifernos1 13d ago

I did that... Turns out it wasn't a twisted ankle and I now get to have 2 bones permanently fused together in my foot and lose some mobility for the rest of my life. It's going to cost me thousands maybe tens of thousands to fix good enough to return to work to pay it off...

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u/albino_acorn 13d ago

i know you were trying to save have instead of gave, but both words work, lol

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u/cosmicsnowman 13d ago

No lie, I broke my foot last year and never went to a hospital. It's fine now but it sucked for a few months

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u/DeLoRiggidy 13d ago

I get that American healthcare is fucked, but I don’t understand the meme. When are Americans talking about old people dying in communist countries, or the healthcare of communist countries at all?

Usually when they criticize communist countries they bring up breadlines, or the fact that communist countries quickly become authoritarian and trample on the rights of their people.

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u/jinreeko 13d ago

Communism=/=socialism, though right winger Americans will tell you they're the same thing

Americans will also rip on non-communist countries with socialist policies all the time, like European and Canadian universal health care. A common meme I used to hear in rural PA: "Universal Health Care would be great, but I don't want to wait three weeks in a doctor's office waiting room for a checkup!"

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u/innsertnamehere 13d ago

Yes - Americans would much rather work for years afterwards to pay the debt off than wait in the emergency room for an hour or two!

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u/snakemomjpg 13d ago

Half the time, we still have to wait at least an hour in the emergency room! I was in a car accident and they were convinced I had a head/neck injury. I sat in the ER waiting room with an ambulance-given neck brace on for nearly 2 hours.

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u/CallMeSaltine 13d ago

I had to wait an hour while I was having a severe asthma attack. Fuck this country

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u/so-much-wow 13d ago

I've had serious asthma attacks in Canada. I walk into an ER in downtown Toronto at 5pm. Tell them I'm having an asthma attack - they did a VO test on the spot and admitted me immediately. Was on the hardcore steroids and breathing fine within 45 minutes of entering the hospital.

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u/bumpkin_Yeeter 13d ago

Talk about instant gratification. "Sir, would you rather wait 2 weeks and save $20k on this new truck or buy it right now?" GIMME NOW!!!

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u/Velvet_frog 13d ago

But universal heath care isn't socialism lol. You Americans are so deprived of basic social welfare, you think any amount of social spending is 'socialist'

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u/jinreeko 13d ago

Yes. But in America it immediately gets labeled as radical socialism

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u/Velvet_frog 13d ago

But it’s just definitionally incorrect, social spending is not ‘socialist policies’. Tax funded healthcare has got nothing to do with changing the means and mode of production, and the relationship between workers and their produce.

And there’s no such thing as ‘European health care’, there’s about 40 nations in Europe, each with its own different healthcare system.

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u/Golden_Acapulco_Nite 13d ago

You understand my man jinreeko is agreeing with you right?

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u/arbyD 13d ago

My dad swears that his uncle in the UK was left to die because it would cost to much to save him. Therefore he is against any and all socialized healthcare, even though he had a lifesaving surgery a year and a half ago that put him back $30k.

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u/Hot-Cantaloupe-9945 13d ago

On top of everything else, the are multiple companies offering private health insurance in the UK. And they're far cheaper than in the US since most stuff is taken care of by the NHS.

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u/PurpleLamps 13d ago

Social policies is not the same as socialist policies by the way

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u/jinreeko 13d ago

Your Fox News-watching american would disagree

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u/Noxillius 13d ago

Americans fucked up big by calling it socialised healthcare. Should've called it nationalised and it would've still been accurate and all the Yeehawdists would've been all over it

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u/shoulddev 13d ago

communist countries

The meme doesn't mention communist countries. Maybe that's part of why you're confused.

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u/CuteGonads 13d ago

Of course, except when such an authoritarian government that steps on the rights of the people is aligned with American interests, then the US will say nothing. Just ask South America how their US-backed military dictatorships went.

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u/MasterYehuda816 13d ago

Because it allows conservatives to say “see? Universal healthcare doesn’t work.”

Yes. They’re idiots.

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u/Account4Fetishes 13d ago

It's just a joke about how hyperfixated some people can be on the problems of socialist countries while ignoring their own.

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u/panopticon_aversion 13d ago

Counting the number of deaths in communist countries is a national pastime of the USA.

The most recent was attributing all Covid deaths to communism.

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u/warzoneaddicted 13d ago

Aaaahhh America's democracy, the police are the authoritarians, and the politicians trample the rights of other people. The only difference between you guys and a communist country is you don't have one guy doing all the bad shit you just kinda spread it around evenly so nobody sees it lol. Communist countries are just unapologetic, America is more you can't blame someone for the many failings if it's not one guys fault type. Each to their own though I suppose, no perfect societies exist yet, and it's hard to say what's better for human advancement, is it the freedoms that whilst making a great life also slow productivity and advancement, when you look at it over a thousand years. Or is Chinas anthill style everyone does everything right and super productive strategy advance us further in the same thousand years? And is it worth the misery. Who knows.

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u/Myneigbor 13d ago

Your tryna tell me that prince Phillip wasn’t killed by the queen? He was only 99 no way that was natural causes

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u/mostExchange65 13d ago

America when someone lines up fr food:

America when someone in a communsit country lines up for food:

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u/Jhqwulw 13d ago

There are no communist countries in this world.

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u/albertossic 13d ago edited 13d ago

Local Man addicted to the rush of correcting people about the difference between social markets, socialism and communism

P.S.: Shoutout to the guy who didn't know social market economy was a real termnand then deletrd his comment

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u/tupac_sighting 13d ago

"Communist" countries are called that not because they've achieved communism (a classless, stateless society), but because they're run by a single party whose explicit goal is to try and achieve communism through socialism (whether you believe them or not doesn't matter, it's what they say).

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u/crystals148 13d ago

We still just socialist but we getting there

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u/JustHere2RuinUrDay 13d ago

They're not socialist either.

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u/crystals148 13d ago

THEN WHO AM I?

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u/JustHere2RuinUrDay 13d ago

Not a country, I'd assume?

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u/crystals148 13d ago

Wait, I don't mention I'm a Vietnamese

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u/mrtheon 13d ago

They aren't socialist but I fully believe that they would like to be. Vietnam is poor and surrounded by enemies. Meanwhile, China has no excuse.

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u/Andrewticus04 13d ago

Heck, China invaded Vietnam (and lost).

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u/mrtheon 13d ago

It still baffles me that China sided with the Khmer Rouge against Vietnam.

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u/UCLAlex 13d ago

China’s foreign policy after the Sino-Soviet split was just “do the opposite of what the soviets are doing no matter how stupid”. The Khmer Rouge also had ties to the US. Chomsky also supported the Khmer for some reason

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u/Derbloingles 13d ago

I don’t understand why so many MLs support China. Like, the Soviets didn’t

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u/VoreLord staunch marxist 13d ago

because they're the largest and most prosperous socialist state ever. real soviets did support them until revisionists gained control.

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u/omicron-7 13d ago

They'll lick any boot that is against the US, that's why

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u/JustHere2RuinUrDay 13d ago

I trust them more than China, that's for sure. But that also doesn't say much.

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u/ReallyDetestFatties 13d ago

Actually, Fox News told me that any country that isn’t doing well is socialist and in ties with Bernie sanders

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u/JustHere2RuinUrDay 13d ago

Ah, true. You got me.

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u/gilium 13d ago

“If I define socialism differently than Marxists or Marxist-Leninists then I can say they aren’t socialist”

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u/JustHere2RuinUrDay 13d ago

So Marxists don't believe that for socialism you need the socialist mode of production? Oh no, maybe I've been a fake socialist this whole time!

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u/gilium 13d ago

Well what do you think of the worker's state mentioned in Critique of the Gotha program?

Granted, Lenin definitely extrapolated more on what a worker's state does, but it does seem like often a logical conclusion of where Marx was going

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u/JustHere2RuinUrDay 13d ago edited 13d ago

Yes to a worker state, but not what MLs understand that to mean.

I have several issues with Lenin and MLs.

The one important here is that we have different ideas on what a DotP is. Lenin and MLs use the term dictatorship of the proletariat to defend their authoritarian regimes, but Marx saw all governments as class dictatorships. The transitional worker state was still supposed to be democratic and a system like the paris commune had fit Marx's idea of a worker state better than the USSR. Marx meant a dictatorship of the majority class of proletarians, not a dictatorship of a party that claimed to represent proletarian interests. A workers party is very quickly a party of former workers, who then have their own class interests.

But even then, having a worker state does not necessarily equal socialism. Not if you still have the capitalist mode of production. Also MLs make a distinction between socialism and communism that Marx didn't and that I find to be little more than apologia for state capitalism.

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u/gilium 13d ago

Interesting. I’m actually an anarchist so trying to understand and steel man MLism is what I’ve been working on. It’s rare to encounter plain Marxists

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u/justMeat 13d ago

Capitalism = Capital ownership
Socialism = Social ownership

Perhaps you should consider actually reading Marx. The manifesto is around 50 pages.

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u/gilium 13d ago

The manifesto is a pamphlet which oversimplifies things

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u/ironic_swag 13d ago

It's an okay introduction. Reading the Manifesto is a lot more than most Americans would even consider doing. You're though, it isn't theory

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u/G-sn4p unrelated SJW text-adventure 13d ago

Socialists existed before marx, fucking big brain. And Marx wouldn't define any country to be socialist today especially considering the fact that he didn't distinguish between socialism and communism.

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u/5v3n_5a3g3w3rk 13d ago

Do you mean the guys that are scared of the covid vaccination becouse in norway some old people died after getting it, without any link between the vaccine and death?

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u/DontFearTruth 13d ago

No they mean the US where guys are afraid of the vaccine cause they were told Bill Gates put microchips in it.

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u/5v3n_5a3g3w3rk 13d ago

Yeah, them are another level of dumb. I mean there is being misinformed and there is that level of misinformed.

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u/BlahbluhblihMan 13d ago

And there is being misinformed

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u/TheMangalorian 13d ago

Microchip from the vaccine is the best part though! My 5G reception has never been better. Thank you Mr. Gates 😌🙏

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u/ComradeDelter 13d ago

vuvuzela no iphone 😎

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u/AgentObsidian00 13d ago

Carl Marks

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u/1SneakyBeaky 13d ago

Carlos Marcos

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u/TovarishchKGBAgent 13d ago

Vladimir "Marks" Stalon, famous gommunist dictator responsible for killing 15 garjillion people by eating all the grain with a comically large spoon

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u/NotTobyFox 13d ago

you don't like capitalism yet yuo exist

bottom text venezuela no iphone 100 billion dead

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u/ComradeDelter 13d ago

sorry libs 😎😂😂😎

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u/_Arachno-Capitalist_ 13d ago

no you don't get it having a room full of funko pops and 72 different onlyfans subscriptions are basic needs

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u/so-much-wow 13d ago

I live in Canada and the radio often plays interviews with American's about Canada's vaccine shortages and their answer is almost invariably "I guess that's why socialized healthcare doesn't work". Like what?

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u/CanuckAussieKev 13d ago

I'm in Canada, had a horrible headache so went to hospital, they did a suite of tests including brain CT scan, got discharged that night after there was no physical explanation for the headache, likely a migraine which I hadn't experienced before.

$0.

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u/kushpsuthar 13d ago

In us it’d be like 40,000

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u/ListlessImperium86 13d ago

🙄✋ America when our system is corrupt and barely functional

😏👉 America when a government we tampered with is corrupt and barely functional

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u/ClairevoyantSlime 13d ago

Canadians: Have to wait an extra week to visit the doc

Americans: Never visit the doc because dont have 14k in savings

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u/ShadowViking47 13d ago

Lmao an extra week? Spoken like someone who's never been to Canada.

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u/sailorveenus 13d ago

Nah I live in Canada and I get medical appointments pretty easily. The only thing that takes long is diagnostic imaging for me. It depends on the province A LOT

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u/angry_coyote 13d ago edited 13d ago

Literally took me a week to get an appointment. EDIT: I live in Canada.

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u/Heath1872 13d ago

Which, as an American, is not any different. We still have to book a few weeks in advance most of the time, sometimes in even months. Dumb Americans think that means that if they are having an MI, they will have to book an appointment weeks out rather than being seen immediately in an emergency room.

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u/RosabellaFaye 13d ago

It really depends where you are (rural areas have less doctors, especially less mental health ones) and how severely needed an appointment is, generally.

Cities have much better healthcare than the boonies and there needs to be some reforms to improve the system here too but it still is much better than the U.S. Most Canadians would like for prescription drugs to be insured by their province/territory as well. We really need to spend more of the healthcare budget on mental health services because not even 10% of it is spent on those. Initiatives to bring more psychologists and psychiatrists from overseas to live in regions without practicing psychiatrits would also help a ton, Nunavut doesn't have a single psychiatrist based there, and people in Northwestern Ontario (North of Thunder Bay, in a subdivision similar in size to France albeit with much sparser and smaller population.) have to drive up to hundreds of kilometers away to access one too.

(I'm literally researching this topic for school rn, for my citizenship class)

In the territories and in some atlantic provinces, especially P.E.I. and Newfoundland and Labrador (especially outside of St John's) you can, sadly, wait months before seeing a therapist because of just how low the patients per doctors ratio is

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u/osuisok 13d ago

This is true in the US as well (not that you said it wasn’t). Less people = less availability of healthcare / healthcare being farther away.

I live in a populous area in the US and tried to make a therapy appointment a few months ago. The waits were so long at the places my insurance covered that I decided against therapy all together.

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u/angry_coyote 13d ago

I had to wait as well for therapy. I don't know how it works with your insurance because it was covered by our free healthcare here, but I made an appointment and had the option to cancel it if I didn't need it once they called me. If you have nothing to lose by making an appointment, make one. Obviously, if there are cancellation fees or something the decision is up to you, but I think that it's good to keep this door open just in case.

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u/bumpkin_Yeeter 13d ago

You gonna elaborate with an anecdote or something or nah?

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u/Chucklefrick 13d ago

You Canadian ?

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u/Groundbreaking-Hand3 13d ago

Canada is an outlier for countries with socialized healthcare anyway. Not very well funded, doctors aren’t very well paid.

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u/grrrr82cu 13d ago

Yeah I don't know where you're getting that info but doctors in Canada are payed incredibly well. $200-300k on average, hours are long though

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u/Jbroy 13d ago

Doctors are well compensated for their work in Canada. Sure they aren’t millionaires but they are still part of the 1%.

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u/passionforhealthcare 13d ago

Actually doctors are very well compensated here in Canada. I’m a premed and I’ve done my share of digging. $300-400K is what I would consider good compensation.

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u/specialdialingwand1 13d ago

It can take months in the US to get an appointment with any sort of specialist anyway.

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u/derLustigeLucasKappa 13d ago

But Healthcare is cOmMuniSm!!!! 111!!!!

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u/Dalek6450 13d ago

The top 10 countries with the highest life expectancies are all rich market economies with a significant government sector.

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u/PranavKat 13d ago

Yup this whole thread is pretending like people have it good in socialist countries, because Cuba, Venezuela, and Laos are just so great. I don't disagree with universal healthcare, but there's not a single socialist country with a higher life expectancy than the United States

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u/FlexFiles 13d ago

according to a quick google search, U.S. is 78.54 while Cuba is 78.73... so.... also countries in europe are all over 80 years.

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u/sohndesmars 13d ago

Just a quick intervention from a European. I don't think we have a single socialist country in the EU. It all depends on perspective: For us even the US Democrats are in the right-center of political opinion. So from an American perspective our healthcare system and our workers rights might seem like socialism but it really isn't for us.

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u/FlexFiles 13d ago

totally. my point was that europe, which isn’t socialist but is closer to it than the U.S., has a much a higher quality of life. so if socialism was allowed to flourish quality of life would go up around the world.

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u/WintersEnvoy 13d ago

Eh, it depends on what ur comparing entirely. Extremes like Cuba has with private ownership/business laws, sure, Europe’s not remotely close to that compared to with the us.

Compare it to say, public heathcare...

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u/SnoffScoff2 sosig 13d ago

Stoopid libural. Dont you know that kahmunizm has killed a trillion million shabadabadillion people?

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u/Meister_Patron 13d ago

I'm gonna take a wild guess here, when you mean "socialist" you mean Scandinavian countries etc. Which are just Liberal democracies that invest in welfare, no need to become a "socialist country" to achieve this, just some investment in your own people.

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u/Interesting-Cow402 13d ago

c'mon now, you can't expect americans to actually understand the correct definition of words, thats communism.

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u/hellschatt 13d ago

Yea, basically social democrats as we call them in German.

Everyone should get a fair chance at life and no should need to die or live miserably because they can't afford healthcare.

Trying to adhere to human rights as best as they can.

And (mostly) other reasonable stuff.

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u/toxicneet 13d ago

no, america fixates on places like venezuela and cuba while conveniently forgetting to mention the coups, sanctions and other garbage they put them through for the temerity of trying to run a government for the people. scandinavia offers fewer opportunities for propaganda so it generally gets ignored

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u/Lacriphage 13d ago

Coups, sanctions, pogroms, assassinations, it goes on and on.

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u/DownvoteALot 13d ago

That reinforces the parent comment point. What you want is welfare, not socialism.

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u/sopranosbot 13d ago

Plus Venezuela is in a dire place heavily due to the sanctions imposed by the USA. Other countries don't want to deal with them due to the fear of sanctions. Iran wants to sell their oil to Venezuela and US just tried to block it in anyway they can.

Real arbitrator of Truth and Freedom they are.

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u/didntgettheruns 13d ago

I thought oil was Venezuela's bigger export, why would they buy oil?

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u/sopranosbot 13d ago

They have crude oil which they can't refine themselves or something along those lines. They need to import for their daily use if I am not getting things wrong.

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u/Historical_Finish_19 13d ago

Their crude oil is super thick and they have to import lighter products of crude (like naptha) to cut it so it is actually usable. So while they have a fuck ton of oil they need another kind to be able to process it. The US seized or attempted to seize some iranian tankers full of just that heading to venezuela not to long ago.

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u/SubParNoir 13d ago

It's weird that the conversation never gets further than someone just saying "sanctions". No-one on either side ever shows these sanctions to be valid, or invalid.

I wouldn't know where to look honestly but it would be nice to make the conversation less abstract.

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u/toxicneet 13d ago

sanctions can't really be valid because they're levied on countries based on what the leaders do (in this case, try socialism; what a horrific crime) but only really affect the citizens, who aren't at all responsible for individual decisions made by their government

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u/noximo 13d ago

How does Cuba run government for the people?

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u/DPP-nyaess 13d ago

Cubans participate in mass organizations that make and carry out policy. They take part in neighborhood planning. Major national decisions and debates are carried out in every workplace and neighborhood.

Elections are but one part of this multi-faceted system. In the October 2007 elections for the National and Municipal Assemblies of People’s Power, 95 percent of all Cubans took part in the voting—compared to the less than 50 percent who take part in U.S. presidential elections. As laid out in the 1976 Constitution, after two years of residence on the island, all persons 16 and older have the right to vote.

Candidates to the Municipal Assembly are nominated in public by neighborhood committees, student unions, farmers’ organizations and trade unions. Over 15,000 candidates are elected to make up 169 Municipal Assemblies of People’s Power.

At the local level, voters can nominate two to eight candidates at public meetings. They are elected if they receive 50 percent of the votes of all the people registered to vote in their district. Delegates are elected directly by the voters.

No candidates receive financial benefit from their positions. The candidates spend no money to promote their campaigns. A simple one-page biography is available for voters to inform them on the backgrounds of the candidates. Voters have access to candidates to discuss any issues they please.

The Municipal Assembly decides which candidates will become deputies to the National Assembly of People’s Power and which will become delegates to the Provincial Assembly.

Up to half the members of the National Assembly can be delegates elected at the municipal level. The other half consists of representatives of labor, farmers’, women’s and student organizations. All candidates at the national and provincial level are elected by direct, secret, voluntary vote.

The National Assembly can amend the constitution and create plans regarding the economy and foreign affairs. A series of special commissions reports to the National Assembly on issues like transportation, food production, construction, health and defense. The National Assembly also chooses the Council of State, the president, vice-president, members of the Supreme Court and the attorney general.

Women make up 43 percent of the National Assembly, ranking Cuba third in the world in female participation in government.

Members from all professions and sectors of Cuban society are represented in the National Assembly. Even though members of the Cuban Communist Party make up a majority of the National Assembly, membership in the party is not required. One-third of all members of the assembly are not members of the CCP.

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u/toxicneet 13d ago

i mean they're one of the world's poorer countries yet because of their functioning healthcare system the life expectancy of cubans is exactly the same as americans. there are other examples like their literacy programs, but i'm not an expert so feel free to google. the point is just that they're socialist

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u/noximo 13d ago

We (Czech Republic) are a country with fairly modern and cheap healthcare.

Funny thing is that it got good and properly funded after we rejected socialism and communist government in a revolution.

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u/toxicneet 13d ago

let me guess, the IMF...? yep, the IMF. you guys are so easily manipulated lmfao

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u/ANIME_GURLS_ROCK 13d ago

That broken leg on the second photo is gonna cost a lot :D

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u/OnionsHaveLairAction 13d ago

Always good to remember...

Universal Healthcare Nations spend less of their economy on healthcare but achieve overall better Healthcare Outcomes (According to the Healthcare Access and Quality Index)

The US's insurance system and lack of government negotiation for drug pricing massively inflates cost for no real benefit

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u/ungulateStroheim 13d ago

Murica has some kinks to workout

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u/JODYHiGHROLLA 13d ago

Don’t kink shame

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u/InternetShibe47 👌 13d ago

i will :)

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u/Spookd_Moffun 👌 13d ago

I don't think there are any socialist countries right now.

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u/myfatguineapig 13d ago

Pretty much all the countries that people consider socialist are actually capitalist countries with social programs.

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u/avaxzat actually me irl 13d ago

Socialism, like most political ideologies, isn't a binary. There definitely exist countries that are significantly more socialist than the US (my country being one of them), even though none of those might fit your view of a "perfectly socialist" country.

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u/xHeyItzRosiex 13d ago

reminder: china is not communist, it is a state capitalist country. just because it is called the chinese communist party doesn’t mean it’s communist. like when north korea calls themselves a democratic country.

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u/chrollykol 13d ago

it's bc they used to be feudal, you need capitalism to transition to socialism

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u/Guidobama 13d ago

Sorry liberal, but both are socialist today and historically have achieved more for socialism than any western country, ever.

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u/Damaz0r 13d ago

They’re both socialist countries

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u/Zandandido 13d ago

State controlled capitalism is not capitalism, it's state controlled economy.

"an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state."

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u/kenny4090 13d ago

Ah yes. All those people dying from old age in Venezuela.

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u/itspodly 13d ago

Or dying from ruthless embargos.

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u/NathanGraves_ 13d ago

If you wait long enough, 50 and starvation becomes old age

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u/CallMeSaltine 13d ago

Ya got me there

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u/ZOverHeaven 13d ago

US: some people can't afford health care Venezuela: most of the people can't eat properly and good health care is even hard for rich people. I'm from venezuela and I have to ask for money to a friend in peru to buy medicine for kidney stones, I'll trade places with any one of you guys in US any time.

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u/OatsNraisin 13d ago

Venezuela is socialism. Marx famously said "just turn your country into Venezuela". That's what socialism is.

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u/AgentObsidian00 13d ago

Almost like capitalist countries continually interfering with the global south in the name of capitalism and profit has messed up the global south, and their problems take more than a couple years to fix even with better system

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u/Tomato_cakecup 13d ago

Weird how everyone just ignores you here

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u/olivertheape 13d ago

Pro socialist memes?

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u/squabblez 13d ago

I miss those times 🙏

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u/lofidelity- 13d ago

This is r/me_irl. Has always been lefty memes here :)

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u/Maskdask 13d ago

I mean if you think affordable healthcare is socialism, yes.

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u/SophiaIsBased 13d ago

Yet another victim of communism./s

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u/IamLoaderBot 13d ago

This post and its comments really tell much about the average age on this sub. Seems like nobody here remembers the 20th century.

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u/FTL_Space_Warp 13d ago

People on this sub don't agree with me therefore they must be children who haven't studied history

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u/en_be 13d ago

Ah yes, because you can't have publicly funded healthcare without full blown Stalinism...

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u/pentaduck 13d ago

Public healthcare is not socialism.

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u/DontFearTruth 13d ago

Tell that to Republicans and conservatives. They seem to disagree with you whole heartedly.

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u/CodeNewBee 13d ago

The meme says socialist country.. thats ussr northe korea china venezuela etc.. it didnt say countries with free healthcare

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u/GallusAA 13d ago

Them: "People died in socialist countries from hunger. Socialism bad"

Me: Globally around 9 million people die each year in capitalist countries from hunger"

Them: "That doesn't count".

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u/OatsNraisin 13d ago

Socialism works on paper.

I'm practice, you get overthrown by a US-backed coup.

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u/OldMoneyOldProblems 13d ago

Oh is this sub another hangout for 16 year old white communists now too? Very cool

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u/Amolk2207 13d ago

we_irl.

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u/SyntheticDeviation 13d ago

Thank god this sub is going back to its’ communist roots. Welcome back, comrades. We will one day be rid of imperialist America. <3

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u/I_AM_METALUNA 13d ago

Which socialist country would that be?

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u/redtiger288 13d ago

Be nice if our government decided to start working on that, I haven't had health insurance for 6 years now. I'm 28 so I'm not horribly worried, but it'd be nice if it got fixed before I die because I can't afford to go to the doctor.

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u/TopMistake2159 13d ago

The USA will blame a socialist country for the destruction by the USA government.

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u/MusicianFuzzy8811 13d ago

I’m young and had a Covid vaccine. Was sitting working with typical expected mild side effects, when I got tunnel vision and was unable to read documents for work, and got really dizzy. Made an urgent video appointment, and they said it’s probably nothing let us know when it gets worse. 20 min video appointment cost me $220 after insurance, and then when it happened again I went in in person and it cost another $150.

Now a few weeks post vaccine, no more side effects. But that was scary at the time.

I’m lucky that I can afford it without too much trouble, but that’s about 10-15% of monthly gross pay at median income. It’s not affordable for the bulk of people.

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u/PissMasterCocc 13d ago

haha America bad

upvotes on the left

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u/IndividualArtistic 13d ago

See you in hot

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u/gaijIncompetent 13d ago

How is this related to a sub called me_irl?

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u/OnionsHaveLairAction 13d ago

So is a private dominated healthcare and insurance sector.

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u/diam213 13d ago

Switzerland has no universal healthcare, they have over 100 private health insurance companies, and they have made having health insurance mandatory. The level of healthcare in Switzerland is higher than most places in the world. Like the US, there are government funded programs that are like Medicare and Medicaid that allow those with less money to get coverage. The US has large corporations that were allowed to gain such market share from lobbying and placing laws that make it difficult for smaller companies to enter the market.

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u/Kleinmanns1969 13d ago

Communism good wholesome USSR anthem everyone work

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u/Martymoodz 13d ago

black book of communism be like

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u/Toyota-is-better- 13d ago

Most of Reddit is like this sadly

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u/MrCringeKidYT loves frog memes 13d ago

This is like the opposite of ehat happens tho

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u/Kuandtity 13d ago

Luckily in america we finnaly elected all of the people that can do something about it. But they aren't ..

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u/FARTCOPTERRRRR 13d ago

"socialism has never worked!"

ignores every CIA military coup ever

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