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But i like what i have okay?

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u/[deleted] May 04 '21 edited 23d ago

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u/oneblank May 04 '21

Basically turning into a future where kids grow up and move out of their parents basement to move into someone else’s basement for $1200/month.

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u/Nylund May 04 '21

I think we’re going to discover that the “nuclear family” (mom, dad, and a couple kids) was a historical blip and we’ll return to the more historically common tradition of multigenerational living.

Having other family in the same house, be it parents or grand parents can also help with child-rearing and childcare costs.

Everyone is killing themselves trying to maintain a weird style of living that was only briefly affordable due to anomalous post-WWII conditions that we’ll likely never see repeated.

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u/Thykk3r May 04 '21

Screenshotted. This statement is very true...

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u/osumaniac May 04 '21

did you ask for his consent?

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u/Communist95 May 05 '21

They posted it to the internet. That's tacit acceptance that what you post may be shared in some way or another, don't you think?

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u/osumaniac May 05 '21

tell that to all music, movie, game producers etc

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u/Communist95 May 05 '21

Intellectual property stifles creativity and forcing artists to make a living off their art is just another awful consequence of capitalism.

Art should be an expression, not a commodity.

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u/thgirbmal May 05 '21

Username checks...out? Idk, honestly, words have lost all meaning for me (communist, socialist, etc).

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u/Slowboatmotor May 04 '21

I’d rather live outside but thanks

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u/Pochusaurus May 05 '21

but first, can you live with your relatives? and second, can you live with your in-laws’ relatives’ children?

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u/msjammies73 May 04 '21

Or companies could pay an actual living wage. It’s one thing to have your parents move in with you and some point to help them with costs. It is a whole different thing to have to stay with your parents because no one in the household makes a living wage. There’s a reason we moved away from that and it has more to do with the misery of living that way than keeping up with the Jones.

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u/Pochusaurus May 05 '21

some companies are subsidising housings for employees these days and usually the apartments are within the city. I hope this becomes a trend for most companies since depending on the deal, companies could be earning a little extra from employees while improving quality of life

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u/Muted_Comfort May 05 '21

Suddenly housing is like health care. If you lose your job you lose your housing. Seems like a bad road to turn down.

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u/Wec25 May 05 '21

Isn't this problematic because if they let you go you don't have anywhere to live (immediately)?

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u/Communist95 May 05 '21

Why on earth do you think that's a good idea?

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u/Apprehensive_Focus May 05 '21

Sounds like feudalism

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u/[deleted] May 05 '21

OOOOOooo even better! Slavery!

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u/luv2spoosh May 06 '21

How the hell would company be earning a little extra by providing housing?

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u/ketimmer May 05 '21

I like this post... and wish it was true. But my brief research seems to suggest the nuclear family was the norm in North America before the world wars. Although some families did share the same household.

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u/Tenderpigeon May 05 '21

I agree with you but I can't even imagine living in the same house as my parents.

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u/Sykotik257 May 05 '21

In addition to the boom after WWII I have heard it is also a product of the Great Depression because people couldn’t afford to house and feed their parents and couldn’t take them in, and then it just became the norm.

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u/DAMN_INTERNETS May 05 '21

I see you too read The Atlantic.

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u/Nylund May 05 '21

I read the occasional Atlantic article here and there, but I don’t think I read whatever you’re referring to. Do you remember the title or have a link?

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u/DAMN_INTERNETS May 05 '21

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/03/the-nuclear-family-was-a-mistake/605536/

It's fairly long but worth a read. I subscribe so I don't know if it's behind a paywall for you.

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u/Nylund May 05 '21

Thanks!

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u/Dependent_Warthog421 May 05 '21

We've doubled the labour force and cut the wages in half. Now that there are more and more foreign talents competing, we've managed to drive down graduate salaries even more and start to require more from our recent graduates them such as master's degrees. To make matters worse, house prices have increased as a double income family is meant to afford them. Mix in a lack of supply and it's no wonder we'll only be able to afford a house with a partner in our late 30s.

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u/Asog9999 May 05 '21

This is true. My mom lives with my wife and our kids. We don’t have any more room though for my in-laws (thank fucking god)

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u/lateseasondad May 05 '21

It was a psy op from the very beginning.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '21 edited 23d ago

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u/Nylund May 07 '21

Are you going to be like that to your kids? (If you choose to have any.)

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u/[deleted] May 07 '21 edited 23d ago

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u/Nylund May 07 '21

You give the impression that your opinion is heavily based on your personal experience with your parents.

But more importantly, I’m trying to make the point that things can change. If you don’t like how your parents treat you, and you choose to treats your own kids differently, then maybe that can also happen with others as well.

Sometimes because of those dynamics, generations swing like pendulums. Younger generations rebel. How many of the leftist DSA types have typical “Boomer” parents or grandparents?

So maybe the “multigenerational” future won’t be you with your parents, but something further down the line when you’re the old one living in a multi-generational house with your kids and grandkids.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '21 edited 23d ago

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u/ambermage May 04 '21

I'm finishing my basement soon, Bay Area.
1,600 square feet with a kitchenette and steam shower / sauna.
Hidden entry to the bedroom via Murphy door.
Any hope in getting more than $1,200 / month for it?

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u/oneblank May 04 '21

You have a basement in the Bay Area? Really though depending on where in the bay you could prob get $4k for that. I’m a door/trim carpenter and have redone some bedrooms in Palo Alto that were rented for $4.5k(own bathroom/shared kitchen).

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u/fagdrop69 May 04 '21

What society is trying to tell all of you is that you're not supposed to move out.

Multi generational homes are coming back in a hurry and are gonna be here to stay. Accepting this is how families build wealth.

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u/OverAster May 04 '21

Yeah but uhhhhh, I don't get a say in whether or not my parents kick me out. So what society is saying doesn't matter.

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u/fagdrop69 May 05 '21

Of course everyone has different circumstances, doesn't change the fact that more incomes under less roofs is a better way to build wealth.

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u/helper3456411 May 04 '21

Easy to say when you don't have an alcoholic dad who wants to throw down fisticuffs every 2 weeks cause he's had 1 too many Manhattans and thinks "a real man lives away from other men" but also let's your drug addict brother snort coke off your Xbox while he's home on military leave but really he's a forklift operator for the air force who will never see combat

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u/the_nobodys May 04 '21

That sucks. For you and your Xbox

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u/helper3456411 May 05 '21

I moved out and xbox still runs baby

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u/SteveNashtey13 May 04 '21

Yeah this really helps me when multiple older generations of my family live together but I’m “lazy” for wanting to get in on it! Sorry that a one bedroom apartment is 3 times minimum wage in my city alone.

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u/MistressSelkie May 04 '21

Most people’s homes just aren’t suited to multigenerational living with any reasonable comfort level. Most people nowadays have the same number of bedrooms that they have children or their kids share a room.

Its hard to sell people on multigenerational housing with houses that were purchased to fit one specific generation comfortably.

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u/Nova762 May 05 '21

Whole families used to share a room... You think everyone used to live In mansions?

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u/MistressSelkie May 05 '21

That’s why I mentioned comfort. Most young adults would choose to not have a family over packing a spouse and two kids into their childhood bedroom.

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u/dark-magma May 05 '21

Where is there housing specifically geared towards multigenerational living?

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u/STORMFATHER062 May 04 '21

The only reason I managed to move out when I was 20 was because I was dating someone older who already had a house. The relationship fell apart and we eventually broke up in December and I'm not 27 and living with my parents again. The most expensive mortgage I can get won't even buy me a house. I can get a shitty tiny flat in the rough part of my town. Yeah, I'm gonna be staying with my parents until I either get another girlfriend I can buy a house with or save up a shit load of money for several years to put down on a house.

I'm always thankful that my parents are decent human beings and let me stay in their house without paying anything. I buy them food but that's about it. I offered to pay them rent but my dad refused and said he would only save it up and give it back when I move out again. It means I've paid off all my credit cards and I'm now 100% debt free. All my money is now going towards a new car and a house deposit. I hope I'll be able to move out before I'm 30, but who fucking knows.

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u/fagdrop69 May 04 '21 edited May 04 '21

Yup, good on you to take advantage of your opportunity to live with family and put yourself on a better financial footing long term.

I understand not everyone has that option but there are folks who have passed up good opportunities to live at home and save money due to an overwhelming sense of pride or independence and put themselves in debt or bad financial situations long term due to that.

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u/rabes81 May 04 '21

BC here I don't know how anyone survives anymore. 2bd room rentals are 1500 to 2k per month plus utilities here now. I pay less for my mortgage (1250 ish).. if we had not bought in 2010 we never would have been able to.

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u/Rinaldi363 May 04 '21

1 bedroom condo in etobicoke... $2,300. My friend was renting a 2 bedroom downtown toronto, $3,100.

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u/Brittle_Hollow May 04 '21

We got a really good deal by Toronto standards when rents dropped due to COVID, 2brm duplex right downtown for $2300/month. I don't think I'll move until the landlord (nice old lady) dies and her kids sell the place, then I'll just go kill myself I guess IDK.

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u/Rinaldi363 May 05 '21

We've been thinking about relocating to Edmonton. Getting a nice 2500sq ft detached house in a nice new community and your mortgage will only be $1,600 a month

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u/Classicpass May 04 '21

Or, Idk, move out of this shit hole city and go work your cushy teleworking job from a cabin

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u/HexagonSun7036 May 04 '21

Lmao same down here in America. In Albany, Oregon ( 35,000 person town that has more fields than people, semirural to rural) and studios start at 750 a month. You simply shouldn't expect to find living for lower now, single rooms in houses in even smaller towns were max $150 a month cheaper so unless you can find someone not trying to get all the profit out of renting (and that's rare, people don't get property to rent to not collect)

Blows my mind people were paying $500 mortgages just over a decade ago. Blows my mind to see how much shit has fallen so quickly. I thought about getting a semi detached or whatever the mobile homes that are permanent are in Philomath, Oregon (population 2,000) and it was still more than that even using my GFs great credit🙂

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u/Various_Party8882 May 04 '21

Jesus fuck, at least vancouver has decent transit and a nice view. 1750 for a 2 bed basement 3 skytrain stops from downtown. I consider myself lucky

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u/rabes81 May 04 '21

Wow. Sort of the same here. Crappy 2bdrm apt I saw for $2100 the other day... crazy

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u/legitimate_salvage May 04 '21

Right? I’m going through a divorce right now, I had to give up my $900 a month mortgage for a $1500 apartment.

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u/rabes81 May 05 '21

Boo that sucks... :(

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u/simonbleu May 04 '21

Beg for remot work to become the norm for anyone that can so population spreads, little towns get revigorated and prices settle a bit (hopefully)

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u/rabes81 May 04 '21

Yeah hopefully that helps. What sucks is prices regularly do not go down quickly... unlike increases....

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u/ujoksimovic May 04 '21

This is BC excluding Vancouver. 2bd in Vancouver is more along $2500-$3000.

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u/rabes81 May 05 '21

Yes I am on the island... our prices are heading that direction quickly

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u/Pasan90 May 04 '21

Oslo, Norway.

1300$ for a one bedroom 36sq/m basement apartment outside the city power not included. Thank god I'm about to move into my own place next week. This rental shit is bull.

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u/Greenblanket24 May 04 '21

“Passive” income is bullshit. Far too many people working far too hard for far too less.

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u/Sleyvin May 04 '21

Toronto and Vancouver became one of the most expensive housing in the world compared to average income.

What's happening there is extremely conserning. I'm so happy I was able yo buy a last floor modern 1000sqf condo in montreal for less than 350k 3 years ago.

Today I would probably be able to sell it at least 450k and price are rising faster and faster. Kinda afraid we will be getting hit even harder when the situation in ON and BC will be no longer sustainable even for renters.

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u/Aunt_Slappy_Squirrel May 04 '21

Egads. $1500 a month in the Midwest will get you a two story on an acreage. Guess I never paid attention to regional pricing but never realized things were that different.

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u/LeDirtBagger May 04 '21

I rent my house in Lloydminster for $1500, 4bdrm, 2 bathroom fully renovated with a garage and the basement is a separate suite. The upstairs tenants were good so I rented the basement to their daughter and basically got an extra $200 a month.

7 years ago I probably could have had Husky or Cenovus paying me $1000 a week to rent my upstairs. How the turn tables

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u/I_dont_know_you_pick May 04 '21

Just gotta go north, I built myself a 2500sqft home on a beautiful lake a couple years ago for 300k

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u/[deleted] May 04 '21 edited 23d ago

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u/I_dont_know_you_pick May 04 '21

I'm not your chief, chum.

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u/decentpie May 05 '21

Can confirm. Also rooms in apartments are reaching $800 in some cities now.

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u/fross370 May 05 '21

Laval here, that's more then my mortgage

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u/MandyWarHal May 04 '21

*Canadian dollars