r/CryptoCurrency Platinum | QC: CC 362 Apr 02 '23

Arbitrum’s First Governance Proposal Turns Messy With $1B ARB Tokens at Stake 🟢 GENERAL-NEWS

https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/04/01/arbitrums-first-governance-proposal-turns-messy-with-1b-arb-tokens-at-stake/
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u/Kappatalizable Platinum | QC: CC 846 Apr 02 '23

Those tokens would fund a “special grants” program meant to foster growth on Arbitrum, the Ethereum layer 2 that airdropped its governance token ARB just last week. But ARB holders would not get a say in who or how Arbitrum Foundation allocates the nearly $1 billion sum, according to the proposal, AIP-1.

ARB doing a speedrun straight to the trashcan with this one

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u/JERMYNC Permabanned Apr 02 '23

Waited a WHOLE week for a cash grab.

It did around 1.20- 1.40 I guess there's demand

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u/Concept-Plastic Apr 02 '23

funny how they are not doing governance polls, the only purpose of ARB token.

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u/Alanski22 Platinum | QC: CC 96 | AvatarTrading 27 Apr 02 '23

Seems like they made this unnecessary token purely to sell & profit. Basically a rug pull.

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u/OneThatNoseOne Platinum | QC: CC 40 Apr 02 '23

Don't forget when it started at $10-11 and insiders sold out at the top while the actual airdrop only opened later when the price all the way to $1.50 or so.

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u/necbone Tin Apr 02 '23

That fuckin happened. By the time the 99% of all holders got theres, it was down to $1-2.... Severely fucked.

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u/EngineeringFinal3419 Banned Apr 03 '23

But that’s the same with a lot of cryptocurrencies

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u/lj26ft Platinum | QC: XRP 1126, CC 534 | x2x2 Apr 02 '23

3 ppl control the Foundation.

This is a SLUSH FUND for Arbitrum VCs.

Scam

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u/Alanski22 Platinum | QC: CC 96 | AvatarTrading 27 Apr 02 '23

So stupid… I actually quite liked Arbitrum but this whole token situation is so scammy. Anyway, thanks for the airdrop Arb.

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u/Gangaman666 Platinum | QC: CC 93, BTC 29, ETH 28 | LRC 7 | Superstonk 33 Apr 02 '23

Lmao yeah not looking good at the moment.

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u/Dwaas_Bjaas Apr 02 '23

Currently 69% (nice) is voting AGAINST the proposal

So I’d say it looks pretty good all things considered

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u/Ispan Apr 03 '23

Havn't they already distributed those 750mil are tokens to child wallets? So basically didn't even bother to wait for the proposal

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u/nichnotnick Apr 02 '23

That’s a shame. Potential squandered? Hope not, but damn

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u/3utt5lut Apr 02 '23

Regardless what happens, I expect the price to tank. Not a good way to start off the TGE.

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u/nichnotnick Apr 02 '23 edited Apr 02 '23

Right, that seems like an almost definitely. I’d be surprised if not.

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u/3utt5lut Apr 02 '23

With how popular Arbitrum is, especially for the Ethereum community, it might hold up, but usually mass centralization is frowned upon.

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u/nichnotnick Apr 02 '23

Right, I’ll remain hopeful, but not great news

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u/3utt5lut Apr 02 '23

It's just disappointing to hear. They probably tried to get it out there while the community is hyped/engaged.

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u/nichnotnick Apr 02 '23

Yea, that’s a good point. The SEC doesn’t want to see anyone/anything make any Fiat they didn’t approve of it and/or get their cut

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u/3utt5lut Apr 02 '23

That's another good point. Cash out as soon as possible.

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u/nichnotnick Apr 02 '23

Corruption is just the norm now.

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u/Kindly-Wolf6919 Apr 02 '23

Or it could solidify the fact that the community as a whole decides what happens/doesn't happen. Looks like a real life Caesar move - together.....apes strong

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u/the_far_yard Stack a Sat, Stash a Gwei, Bull or Bear, D-C-A. Apr 02 '23

Cant spell decentralize without centralize kind of situation?

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u/Kindly-Wolf6919 Apr 02 '23

"This little maneuver's gonna cost them $1 billion". - Arbi-stellar.

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u/saahilxo Apr 02 '23

Time to short it I guess 📉

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u/Saihras Apr 02 '23

Among the stuff arb team has done.

They manually and automated trimmed out people from airdop if they deemed them 'hunting for airdrop' or otherwise if they wanted.

They still have the single multisig afaik, that can bypass dao on anything, including changing anything about the arb ecosystem. Like rug it in a minute.

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u/Skank_cunt_42 Tin Apr 02 '23

Sold my airdrop at $1.4 for 0.6 ETH

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u/ablablababla Apr 02 '23

Did the same, I can just watch these polls unfold from the sidelines with no worries

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u/Alanski22 Platinum | QC: CC 96 | AvatarTrading 27 Apr 02 '23

Same here, waited a bit longer and sold around average 1.20 but still a bit grab! Happy to have it in ETH now.

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u/coinsRus-2021 Silver | QC: CC 52 | ADA 222 | TraderSubs 11 Apr 02 '23

Don’t mean to brag but I hit 0.7 🙂

I too regret nothing

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u/37Schmeckles Platinum | QC: CC 126 | Science 10 Apr 02 '23

Lol, i sold 3/4 of my airdrop for over 1 eth. Those are scrub numbers :D

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u/coinsRus-2021 Silver | QC: CC 52 | ADA 222 | TraderSubs 11 Apr 02 '23

Lol yeah I only qualified for I think 875

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u/szerted Tin Apr 02 '23

Yeah, first hours of airdrop was a nightmare. I guess one needed to be lucky to get through the crashed site to claim and sell it straight up.

or maybe inside job, wouldn't surprise me after this proposal. Not a conspiracy person but the site was working perfectly couple of seconds before the drop. And now suddenly it crashes

Was refreshing for hours but only managed to sell at $1.38

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u/ArjanaEU Platinum | QC: CC 49 | Politics 14 Apr 02 '23

I mean the website being down is not a suprise with the amount of traffic going through there. You can't really argue for a inside job thing either, because if you had any blockchain knowledge you could claim it on chain without using the website. I don't want to see that conspiracy theory even hinted at. It's people being mad at being unable to interact with the blockchain(whilst it is available. If anything it's a knowledge gap which is ones own fault.

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u/szerted Tin Apr 02 '23

guess you motivated me to search and learn how to claim it from the blockchain. Thanks :)

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u/necbone Tin Apr 02 '23

There was selling before the airdrop

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u/ArjanaEU Platinum | QC: CC 49 | Politics 14 Apr 02 '23

No, There were people gambling on centralised exchanges with Options (guessing the price that it will release at). The tokens themselves could not be sold before the airdrop because they were not released beforehand. Show me the transaction on the blockchain of the people that recieved and sold their tokens before the launch and you have the shadow of an argument. Else please stop spreading misinformation.

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u/necbone Tin Apr 03 '23

I was watching the price, I didn't know thats what was going on. Assumed insiders and their buddies were selling before we got airdropped.

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u/necbone Tin Apr 02 '23

I'm holding with my 888... but this shit is lookin real bad..

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u/JERMYNC Permabanned Apr 02 '23

I bought a bunch of beer 🍺 ETH and Diversified some and kept some for the next ride. My life

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u/godmod Tin Apr 02 '23

Shocked. Shocked I tell you.

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u/pmbuttsonly Platinum | QC: CC 1383 Apr 02 '23

Narrator: he wasn’t

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u/Harold838383 Banned Apr 02 '23

Really there’s no need for this greed. It’s a bad look

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '23

Yea, too bad greed is all too common.

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u/Ninja_Gogen Apr 02 '23

This is sketchy AF.

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u/Alanski22 Platinum | QC: CC 96 | AvatarTrading 27 Apr 02 '23

Filling their pockets lesbehonest

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u/Plasticites Apr 02 '23

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u/masterbatesAlot Platinum | QC: DOGE 140 | PoliticalHumor 14 Apr 02 '23

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u/yuruseiii ETHead Apr 02 '23

Can someone please explain to Arbitrum what a DAO is?

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u/IntensityCareUnit Tin Apr 02 '23

Decentralised Autonomous Organisation

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u/IntensityCareUnit Tin Apr 02 '23

However they don't return my calls anymore

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u/CymandeTV Apr 02 '23

I call this greed. I really hope everyone of you sold last week :)

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u/necbone Tin Apr 02 '23

I didn't... was trying to do something different and not just cash grab.. lessons learned?

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u/grchina Platinum | QC: CC 38 Apr 02 '23

Justin Sun did this to steem and destroyed it,took coins from his exchange and borrowed enough from cz to call and win a vote giving himself all steem reserves.Im out of arb when I heard this proposal

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u/compressionwaves Bronze Apr 02 '23

All this news pushed the vote to ~53% Against. So.. the DAO is working?

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u/HiCarumba Platinum | QC: CC 473 Apr 02 '23

Think it's up to 60% now so it probably wont pass. The problem is the sentiment is there to do this, and was probably the plan all along.

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u/Alanski22 Platinum | QC: CC 96 | AvatarTrading 27 Apr 02 '23

Good to hear, literally the only thing we can do with our arb tokens is vote. So glad to see this get squashed. But it does lower my trust in the overall project

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u/z0uNdz Permabanned Apr 02 '23

Air drops are always shady. You will have most trying to cash out since it was free. In this case its even worse with the ones behind the project looking for a loophole to offload before the locking period expires

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u/AMeltoBuntetesed Tin Apr 02 '23

Same here. I think a real project doesn't need any airdrop ever, but every scam had airdops since I'm in the crypto space.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '23

Airdrop is just another way to market. They try to create value by having people interact with a chain that has no traffic. Lol

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u/Technologhee Platinum | QC: CC 44 | Investing 15 Apr 02 '23

Who could have seen this coming?!?

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u/Aseira Tin Apr 02 '23

Massive short on Monday?

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u/RFV1985 Platinum | QC: CC 189, BTC 68, ETH 65 | AVAX 9 | Politics 16 Apr 02 '23

Time for me to swap out all my airdropped ARB for ETH. Plus, I’m going to bridge everything I have out of Arbitrum and back into L1 ETH.

The L2 wars are very early and I don’t want to be involved in the drama. I’d rather sit back, stake ETH, and let the various L2s duke it out and mature over time.

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u/arcalus Platinum | QC: CC 182 Apr 02 '23

1B tokens valued at $0

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u/urbanhikers Permabanned Apr 02 '23

Is it possible that the ARB team making FUD on purpose to dump the price and then buy back at lower price?

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u/urbanhikers Permabanned Apr 02 '23

But anyhow, 1.11 level is major level. If it didn't hold, lets see how low it can go.

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u/urbanhikers Permabanned Apr 02 '23

What will be the effect on other tokens who are on ARB NOVA chain like....Moon

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u/Consistent_Many_1858 Platinum | QC: ETH 26 | MiningSubs 27 Apr 02 '23

Can't believe how fast it's turned to shit.

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u/Round_Tumbleweed_867 Permabanned Apr 02 '23

It's over 50% of the circulating supply, it's way too much

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u/JERMYNC Permabanned Apr 02 '23

50? No more like another 10%

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u/42326041 Tin Apr 02 '23

42.78% tokens DAO treasury

26.94% tokens for offchain labs team

17.53% for private investors in offchain labs.

Basically whopping 70% tokens for themselves, 17.5% for VCs and private investors.

Only 12% tokens for users and projects.

The greed is clearly visible in numbers. WHEN YOU KEEP 70% of total tokens for yourself, THIS WAS BOUND TO HAPPEN.

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u/gimmedatcrypto Platinum | QC: CC 25 | r/WSB 13 Apr 02 '23

As long as they airdrop us again then I am cool with this proposal.

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u/TabletopThirteen Platinum | QC: CC 246 Apr 02 '23

Bunch of Greedy bastards. Can we go to MATIC instead?

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u/has-a-mustache Tin Apr 02 '23

I holding out for zkSync

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u/TipToeTurrency Permabanned Apr 02 '23 edited Apr 02 '23

“Relationships are like farting, If you push too hard things could get messy real fast.”

-Kevin ❤️

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u/Cleer-Fx Banned Apr 02 '23

Who's Kevin

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u/TipToeTurrency Permabanned Apr 02 '23

hint: Say the name and then the emoji out loud

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u/Cleer-Fx Banned Apr 02 '23

Did Kevin hart really said that? Lol I'll search for it

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u/TipToeTurrency Permabanned Apr 02 '23

Yep, He’s the best lol

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u/SimbaTheWeasel Bronze | QC: ALGO 18 Apr 02 '23

Lol brilliant

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u/ThatOtherGuy254 Platinum | QC: CC 633, BTC 239 | TraderSubs 239 Apr 02 '23

I hope this doesn't affect Moons.

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u/CatBoy191114 Platinum | QC: CC 344 Apr 02 '23

This right here. Wish we could migrate to another network.

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u/Overall_Safety6846 Tin Apr 02 '23

Remember the names on this sub that were shilling you the token in the runup to the airdrop. They needed exit liquidity as they dumped their airdrop bags ASAP.

Expect them to do the same with other L2s. Don't fall for the grift.

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u/danimal_rs Apr 02 '23

Happy I got out at $1.36. Too many questions to hold ARB

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u/Stiltzkinn Apr 02 '23

This is good for Polygon.

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u/ieatmoondust Pssssst... Hey! Got MOONS? Apr 02 '23

Looks like midnight has come for Cinderella.

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u/Frogmangy Tin | CC critic Apr 02 '23

Trouble in paradise already?

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u/Roy_Playz Apr 02 '23

I got my ARB drop and then got out ASAP.

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u/Nostradonuts Tin Apr 02 '23

Pikachu shocked face

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u/sidmehra1992 Apr 02 '23

i hope eits not pump and dump

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u/JudithMoores Apr 02 '23

$1 billion ARB tokens at stake? Sounds like someone forgot to carry the one when they were doing their math. That's like accidentally ordering 10,000 pizzas instead of 10.

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u/badadadok Platinum | QC: CC 50 | BANANO 5 Apr 02 '23

This is why I always sell 50% of my airdrops once I get them.

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u/CatBoy191114 Platinum | QC: CC 344 Apr 02 '23

Glad I sold my ARB airdrop. What a shitshow.

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u/StolenApe Apr 02 '23

Oof. Just oof.

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u/BaldWithABeardTwitch Tin Apr 02 '23

Imagine being shocked this is a scam.....

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u/libretumente Apr 02 '23

Tokens =/= coins fam. Learn to spot the difference

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u/Eluchel Platinum | QC: CC 486 | PCmasterrace 28 Apr 02 '23

Yeah I sold the rest of mine when I saw that. No regrets

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u/TcherChristian Tin Apr 02 '23

If it isn’t $BTC it’s scammy until it isn’t!